The Gossip- Dont Make Waves

GVB1939 Says:

Jun 6, 2009 - One for My Female Singers, The Gossip Playlist . Please check it out. Gerry Great production, Performed with Wow :o) A Selection of Videos I think you might find interesting. Thanks for posting Regards

McfcEastlandsGangsta Says:

Jun 6, 2009 - chubby chaser?

AMoldyPeach Says:

Jun 7, 2009 - talent chaser ;)

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 7, 2009 - well sure its about fashion too but there are some constants in beauty such as health and that girl aint healthy. its nice that so many people here like her and i respect her for her attitude - still i wouldnt wanna be with her and if you are completely honest with yourself you wouldnt either - except if you are heavy too, i guess

punkedjetthead Says:

Jun 7, 2009 - hey dude dont knock what other people may like. People have a thing for heavier people. I personally don't but theres a boat for everything and if that's what floats yours then good for you. If not then you're on a diff boat. Doesn't mean you have do try and sink the others.

Fuukuie Says:

Jun 7, 2009 - Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, man. I don't see why her weight is such an issue with people anyways, it doesn't even matter.

dingoesatemycamera Says:

Jun 7, 2009 - *duh* sorry, i meant the picture at 1:20 thank you.

azertyuiop32 Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - what a fat disgrace this blob is. why she is proud of being obese i will never know. this is someone who is meant to be a role model to millions of fans. im not saying she should be like a matchstick but surely her current size is not healthy and in the long term will come back to haunt her. however i suppose she is like many many other fat yanks in that they have no concept of healthy diets and just eat burger after burger after burger then blame everyone but themselves.

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - And that is exactly where I disagree. There are certain characteristics of what is beautiful such as symmetry, proportion, health etc. I dont mean to "sink" anything but to say that there is a boat for everything is just idealistic self-delusion. Hypothetical question: this girl next to a version of herself with a normal/healthy weight - what is more attractive?

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - the saying is nice but only true to a certain very limited extent - see posting above. I'd say it is an issue because it was made one

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - To all those who like to delude themselves. Beauty is NOT in the eye of the beholder. Physical attractiveness is very well researched and has a certain purpose too. It serves as an indicator of the quality of genes, so that pretty people might get to procreate more. Determinants of physical attractiveness: signals of youth, proportion, waist-hip ratio, symmetry etc. And although I love this girl and her music - she is NOT f***** attractive - no matter how often you claim she is...

Fuukuie Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - Well then you're just being an opinionated asshole.

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - so you heavy too then, eh?

Fuukuie Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - That's actually pretty bullshit, people let society tell them what beauty is. She might be large, but, if anything, she has an attractive face. Why can't you just leave it at that some people find her attractive and you just don't? I mean. Christ, dude. So you don't think she's attractive. That doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you, which is the only reason I'm debating this with you. Some people think she's sexy and some don't, let it go. Fucking sake, man.

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - But this is exactly why I AM arguing. True, society and fashion have an influence on our perception of beauty - but a limited one. Attractiveness is not just some idea that society came up with to make some people miserable. As I said before there is a very mundane reasion behind all this and that is to indicate healthy genes etc etc. Just google attractiveness research or something like that

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - btw you didn't answer the question I asked before. Hypothetically: this girl vs. the same exact girl with a normal/healthy weight - do you think there are people out there who would prefer the heavy version?

Fuukuie Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - No I am not overweight, and some people WOULD prefer the heavier version, I guess depending on what you're into. But I'm not comparing her to some super model or some shit, I'm just saying that I think that she's attractive, and plenty of people agree with me. And personality has alot to do with what makes me find women attractive. So if I had to choose between her and some skinny chick that was a bitch, I'd choose Beth.

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - I believe the share who would choose heavy beth over normal beth would be insignificant and negligible but we have no way of knowing. Also, skinny models and personality have nothing to do with the point I am trying to make. I can see why somebody might find Beth attractive. But my point is - she is to some people attractive not because but even though she is heavy. She would definitely be more attractive if she was "healthier" and not just to those who are into that.

punkedjetthead Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - Just because she is heavy does not mean she isn't healthy. Sure she's not the most healthiest person but there are people who are bigger who are sickly unhealthy. What you may find unattractive someone might find damn right sexy. Sure physical attractiveness has a purpose. IT means a lot to some people but some people would find her totally hot and would want her in bed to screw. Everyone has their thing. Just because you don't doesn't mean that everyone doesn't.

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - no no no and NO. Why is everybody here so hung up on this idea that attractiveness is all relative and depends on the individual. Sorry but is that an american thing? Sure, sounds like it. It depends on individual preference only to a limited extent. Physical attractiveness has a biological purpose. Why do you try to force your happy-feel-good-everyone-is-a-unique-snowflake view on pure facts? Face it - that girl is NOT attractive - maybe to some who can't do better but that doesn't count to me

punkedjetthead Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - why does it matter if someone else finds her smoking hot? if they're both happy together what the hell difference does it make? It shouldn't. I'm not sexually attractive to her but she is pretty. Why else would they have porn where you have these women who are bigger then Beth slapping flour on themselves? Because some people get off on it. Sure to some it may be gross or funny but others get off on it. Why should you care if it doesn't effect your life?

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - Where do I start? Or should I even start? Oh well - no it doesnt matter, no it doesn't make a difference, yes everybody should be happy with the one they find attractive, yes there is porn with obese people but it may account for less than 1% so who cares - all what you said is true but it does not refer to the argument I am trying to make. This woman is by NORMAL STANDARDS not attractive. Saying she is doesn't make it so.

punkedjetthead Says:

Jun 8, 2009 - who cares about normal standards? what is the definition of normal anyways in our modern world? if someone finds her hot thats their opinion. why keep saying that she isn't if someone apparently does. It doesn't matter about normal standards. Not everyone believes in those normal standards. those normal standards don't refer to the entire world. so you dont find her attractive, okay that's good. but some do. end of story

crazymrlee Says:

Jun 9, 2009 - I guess I saw that coming - your rant about whats normal. Those standards are reality no matter if you care about them or not. No not everyone believes in them but if 99% do - they are reality. And that's exactly what I am trying to tell you. Its not all relative and it does not all depend on the point of view. Maybe somebody finds her attractive - ok but somebody else likes to get pissed on - both negligible extremes hence completely irrelevant. Exceptions only prove the rule

punkedjetthead Says:

Jun 9, 2009 - What is the point of you going on and on and on about all this? If someone finds her hot, why should you care? Fine, you don't think she's hot. That's your opinion and your entitled to it. but so are they. Why try to tell them they're wrong when that's what they believe and is true to them?